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6th kyu
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Hey.

I've got a problem with making my MIDI-keyboard work with my Intel-based Macintosh computer, using Mac OS X Leopard.

For several weeks, I've used my M-Audio Axiom 49 Midi-keyboard with Apple's music-making program Garageband, which the computer contained when i bought it. It worked very well whenever i wanted it to, with no latency. I haven't ever experienced a problem with it.

Until now; When I installed Pro Tools LE 7 on the Mac, I can't get a connection to my Axiom 49 anymore. When opening GarageBand, it says: "GarageBand has detected a possible conflict between one or more third party MIDI or audio drivers." I can't use it either in GarageBand or Pro Tools, and when opening Audio MIDI Setup (linked "MIDI Studio" in Pro Tools), it can't detect my keyboard.

I'm not pro in anyway, but I wonder how this happens. The computer tells me to be sure to install all the latest drivers for all audio and MIDI equipment connected to my computer. But my MIDI equipment doesn't need any separate driver when using Macintosh, as it is installed allready. I guess the problem is that I've installed another MIDI driver when installing Pro Tools, but what am I to do about it? Can I just delete the new driver somehow, and then it will work fine with Pro Tools, too? Or is there anyway else to fix it?

Thank you very much for your patience - any kind of answer/suggestion will be appreciated.

Johan M. N., Denmark.

By the way; I'm not sure that it is a new Midi-driver that causes the problem, but i guess so, as the problem disappears when I uninstall Pro Tools.
 
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Kyudan
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Don't use USB.

Use the MIDI port...on the keyboard and on the Digi interface.

MIDI will work with the built in apps' code. USB to MIDI keyboards will need another driver, which it sounds like is causing your problem.


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6th kyu
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Thank you for that very quick answer.

Well, I've had the same thoughts, but the problem is that my Digi interface is a Mbox 2 Mini, which has no midi port.
 
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Ah...I assume you've tried looking for updated drivers for the keyboard's USB?

Maybe someone can chime in that's actually using a non Digi MIDI interface with ProTools-I wonder if it's locked like their audio is. On second thought--Maudio and Digi are owned by the same people now, right? Have you tried their DUC forum?

My (old) experience with Maudio's tech support makes me believe they're idiots. I'd try the digi support/community. That's what I'd look for--info/issues using a non Digi midi interface w/ PTLE. That's effectively what you're doing.


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It's correct that I'm not able to record with non-Digi interface in ProTools. I can't even start up the application without my Mbox connected, so i guess it won't matter ):

Anyway thanks alot for your help, I'll try to write Digidesign.
 
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1st kyu
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That's disgusting. Digidesign not only wants to take over the world, they want to take over your computer!

If you have a 30 day return policy on your M-box, you might consider giving it back and getting Logic. Logic is a much better program for midi composition and such, and it won't lock you in to a dead end system that limits you to 32 tracks of audio and 18 hardware inputs. With Logic, your system can expand with no limits on hardware inputs or track count. That might not mean much today, but the day will come when PTLE will be your biggest limitation to making music.

Good luck.

(I feel so much better now that I've gotten my daily digi-bashing rant out of my system.)

It would be a good idea to get the latest driver for your keyboard and re-install it. Sometimes that's all it takes, even if it's the same driver you had before.


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Pro Tools LE is NOT YET QUALIFIED to run on a Mac with Leopard!!

Please get the facts before the bash begins Wink

JohanMN you will probably need to download the latest updates to Pro Tools before you try anything else. Some people have got a stable system using OS Leopard.

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I beg my pardon, they have only JUST released version 7.4.2 of pro tools to be compatibile with version 10.5.3 of Leopard. You will need to update to both of these to (hopefully) resolve your issue. Good luck Smile

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I forgot... another advantage to Logic is the fact that you can open Garage Band projects, using the same Apple Loops and VI's. In fact, the full version of Logic comes with over 40 gigs of Apple Loops and VI's. (And I don't even use Logic. I'm on DP, but considering expanding my tools - not to be confused with 'Protools', of course.)


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Logic is a MUCH better program for MIDI. Not even in the same ballpark...and Logic Express (or whatever they call it now) has full MIDI functionality.

...I assume anyone using PTLE is primarily using it for audio. If not, then absolutely get another app.


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Thank you Popmann. I feel a little less like a whackjob, thanks to your reasoned and informed post.

I believe the difference between Logic Express and full Logic is minor - I don't think they give you the B3 emulation in Express, and they might skimp on the 40 gigs of loops/VI's, but other than that, it's the same program.


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Thank you so much for all of the answers.
Well, I went to the dealer of the keyboard, and spoke to a Apple-expert. He said that he had never experienced such a problem before, but I should download the newest pre-release for Leopard from Digidesign, and delete all kind of MIDI-drivers on my computer. The keyboard should be just fine anyway, as it's class compliant.

I started with just deleting all Midi-drivers named anything near "digi" or "protools" - like that, without deleting a driver which seemed to have been there from the beginning. Besides that , I made myself sure that I had the newest pre-release. So, I don't know whether it was the download or the erase of drivers (or which of them) but it worked somehow Big Grin

Once again, thanks alot for the attention (:
 
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Good to hear!


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