Dan, are you going to add the NT1000 onto the graph as well? I assume it would be close to the NTK -- maybe a tad brighter, and slightly less coloured?

Would like to hear your opinion,


-- Per.

P.S.: Thanks for the work; it is a nice concept!

this is a great idea

Hi Dan,

I really like this graph. We currently have a C1 and V67G from reading forums like this. Considering adding another mic and we are looking strongly at the modded Apex 460. Any idea where that would fall on the chart? We were also looking at the ADK Vienna Pro based on your recommendations but that looks awfully close to the C1 on the chart. Thanks.

Not answering for Dan but I've had extensive experience with a 460 lately (vocals and electric guitars) and I'd definately catagorize the mic as being dark, compared to the other LDC's I'm using, in my current regular gig.

My buddy, who owns 2 of them, retubed one with a JJ 12ax7 and while I haven't had a chance to really A/B the 2, side by each, he tells me there's quite a difference, but what that is, I don't know. All I know is that the JJ tubed model is his #1.

It's hard to go wrong with these mics. Incredible value. I heard that the store selling them (who also owns Apex) did a 'blind taste test' and of the 9 singers, the majority were apparently leaning towards this mic. I have no idea what the details of the test were, but will ask next time I'm in the store and see how much of the story is true, and get more details about how the test was conducted.

DOT, I stumbled upon this thread and the graph somehow and this just brings it all together! Thank you so much! It really helps to have a visual representation of how they relate to each other.

Anyone who cares to answer:

Is it fair to assume a Rode NT1A is about where the NT1000 is?

Is a Shure SM81 about where the Octava MC0102 is?

The plot for Shure KSM - is it representative of the KSM 27?

Thanks,
bilco

I think this grapgh is a great idea, but i do have reservations.

like others i'm really not sure what the differenece between bright and dark and colour is, ssemsto me bright and dark are part of a colour.

also I don't perceive my c414 to be all that hugely bright. certainly in the bright neutral quadrant, but way up there? its considerably less bright than my NT2000, which is less bright again than an NT1000.

I'm also not sure about the v69m placement, although it may be my next purchase, as Pop pointed out it has quite an air boost, which mitigates against any perceived darkness considerably.

interesting how thin on the ground the dark neutral quadrant is.... thats another area i'm looking...

I'd also have the temerity (given my much lesser experience) to disagree with Dot about pres not being bright or dark, my DMP3 is much brighter than my JLM baby animals (with JLM14 and OPA2604) but i'm not at all sure that i would place one as more coloured than the other. the JLM is less distorted and more controlled in the highs, so maybe you would say that in this case the DMP3 is more coloured, but in a way which makes it sound bright? in any case i think the axes are fairly subjective unless they are to be defined in physical terms.

the JLM with the 99v opamp is more coloured, but only mildly darker.

I'm guessing that's a 414 TLII? I don't find the B/ULS as bright as is marked on the graph...but not sure about the TL.

mine is a c414B-XLS - the new model supposedly equivalent to the ULS

its bright-ish, but its not way up there where Dot has it on the graph. most other LDC's i've tried are brighter!

I just saw this for the first time. All I can say is that if your D12E is darker than a 421 or a 4038, then it's broken or has a bad capsule. In fact, that your MD421 is brighter than a U47 suggests that something is wrong there.

Is this still work in progress? Should be a sticky IMO.

this is a great service you have done..a little blurred but thanks Dan

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Anyone who cares to answer:

Is it fair to assume a Rode NT1A is about where the NT1000 is?

Yeah where would you place the NT1a on this graph?