My ears are fried, so some feedback would be appreciated. I've tried to record 2 amps at the same time, kind of tricky business. Anyway, Royer on EVM12L-VH4, SM7B on V30-Uberschall, 2 takes panned left, right.

What you think? Sucks, good, not bad? Bash me all you can!
http://www.dizero.com/studio/doubleamp.mp3

I think it's a good mix. The mics are a nice blend, pretty ripping metal sound.
Craig

I'd have to hear it in context of an overall song and mix, but it sounds pretty damn energetic to me! Good sense of space.

Wow, thanks!

No context, just goofing around.

Any criticism? Something I should work on?

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MASSIVE. Really like the tone and how it works attitudinally (i'm pretty sure I'm making that word up).

IMHO, sounds greatly improved from the stuff you were asking about a while back. Again, IMHO, it's about learning to maximize the simple techniques that will get you the most mileage out of your engineering...2 amps...2 mics...good placement...sounds good!

Sounds like it's time for a whole song... *nudge*

Sounds really in your face phat. I think your getting your guitar tone dialed in.

A couple of things that have worked well for me while recording 2 amps, are recording each cabinet in different rooms to eliminate bleed and use one amp with a Solid State rectifier for tight bottom punch and the other with a tube rectifier for some sag. Best of both worlds. Dirty or clean.

What you've tracked sounds great..
I gotta agree with Ian, you got the tone dialed, it's song time

Man, you should be in the room, it was awesome!

I'm currently in the mode that I don't like anything other than what I hear in the room. It's good to see it doesn't suck that bad.
Thanks.

Nbarts
I am not a metal head at all
but i like the tone and seperation as someone else said. It might be nice to try different rooms for bleed purposes. But I agree with you as far as being in the same room.
I recently ran a speaker wire to another room in hopes of recording from the control room. But it was a little harder to get into the moment because i couldn't feel the vibration of the amp.
But as long as you are in the room with one of the amps from what I hear you should still get that same feeling. try it and let us know. It may help you get even more seperation/ stereo field.

For the pwer chord thing That sound kicks ass.....

I wonder what you guys think about passive vs active battle.

Same setup.
The previous clip was LP with EMG81.
This one is LP with JB, more tight sound.

http://www.dizero.com/studio/doubleamp2.mp3

And here is one with JB/MXR. Pretty much Tool setup with Uber replacing modded Marshall

http://www.dizero.com/studio/doubleamp3.mp3

And since we are on this subject what you think of these cleans?

VH4/XTC mix - timefactor in the loop
http://www.dizero.com/studio/doubleamp4.mp3

Nbarts
clean sounds good
I am hearing some sort of delay between the two listening through my computer. Was that meant to be like that?

Yea, I didn't play it well, I was too busy tweaking the knobs.

I was thinking what if I stick an absorber between the 2 mics?

The playing was good I just heard a delay between the parts. By the way I do like the tone your getting
I sent your link to a friend of mine who has been dreaming of a bogner or a diesal.
let him know when you'll sell one cheap to him LOL
keep up the good work and woodsheding

Well, automatic delay compensation in nuendo doesn't seem to work for me any good. After I track a project I have to sit down & manually adjust all the tracks. Kind of makes me sick.

Tell your friend to buy an early Marshall JMP & get it modified. Sounds just as good as Diezels if he just wants the distorted sound. The main reason I keep the 2 Diezels & the XTC is their clean channel.

What are using to split the signals? That may create some lag time. Are you using the same delay for both amps? I can hear the 10-15ms delay also, might be the room folding back to the Royer though. Is that about the size of your room? 10- 15 feet(on the 1 foot = 1 millisecond theory)

Just stumbling in the dark.....

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What are using to split the signals? That may create some lag time. Are you using the same delay for both amps? I can hear the 10-15ms delay also, might be the room folding back to the Royer though. Is that about the size of your room? 10- 15 feet(on the 1 foot = 1 millisecond theory)

Just stumbling in the dark.....

I use the thru jack on the vh4. You did guess the size of the room right .

It can't be that(maybe it is), because what you are hearing is 1 take of the 2 amps blended together on one channel, then another take on the other.

Loop was for the VH4 only, XTC stayed dry. Also my playing went off the time the delay was set.

But mainly it's the nuendo thing, I've been struggling with it for a while, especially when the project starts to get busy tracks go terribly out of time.