After having tried out a couple of chat rooms for the last couple of weeks, I'm not sure if chat rooms
add to what Studio Forums is about.

Studio Forums is one of the fastest growing forums for gear/audio/recording on the net.
Things seemed to have been working right in our first year - and maybe it's a matter
of "if it's not broke don't fix it."

I can see a place for chat rooms with interviews or something that's scheduled. But just
to have a chat room there 24/7 is starting to look like a less appealing idea.

Thanks to AudioLot for working with SF to give it a try. This is no reflection on them.
It's more just me reconsidering the idea of having chat rooms at all.

And thanks very much to Dusty who has worked on some back-end chat room applications
that we will be using on a limited and scheduled basis in the future for events like live interviews
and perhaps seminars of some sort. And those types of chat sessions would be copied and posted into
a topic at Studio Forums.

I'm open to suggestions. But that's what I'm thinkin' at this point.

Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions

Chat rooms for on-line clinics, Q & A, interviews... great!

Chat rooms for doing what Studioforums already does? Probably not needed.

... tacket

Or maybe just have a chat room set up once/twice per week on a regular basis.

I like the idea of having a chat room where interaction is real-time... you kinda get more of a "feel" for who's who. Doesn't have to fill the role that the forums are designed to do necessarily.

:: Bowisc

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My Recording Setup

Maybe people liked to chat in the chat room im sure most people would continue to post but im sure lots would like to hang around and chat with people to

I guess I will be the one person who will miss the chatroom ....

Goodbye chatroom

I agree with Bowisc About the Getting to know people aspect. The few times I was there the topics were sometimes related to recording, sometimes not. About 50/50 I'd guess.

But hashing out, or discussing things in real time was good. No over analyzed posts. Real opinions, ideas, points of view, contact.

Through that discussion, BS, and personal interaction, I think I know a couple of people here better. Both their Music side and other sides.

I understand your position Dot. The Studio Forums could become something less, by adding more to quickly. If slow growth helps to keep quality up, so be it. I certainly am not up on zoning, as it relates to virtual communities. If that's the right way to put it. And it looks like population has grown about 20% in the last couple weeks.

Fun while it lasted though.




JoeSixpack.us

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Originally posted by Dot:

And thanks very much to Dusty who has worked on some back-end chat room applications
that we will be using on a limited and scheduled basis in the future for events like live interviews
and perhaps seminars of some sort. And those types of chat sessions would be copied and posted into
a topic at Studio Forums.

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That is a good idea, knowledge is invaluable, and due to time differences, I'm sure I'd be missing out on most of these sorts of chats when they are happening.

I enjoyed the chats I had - mostly because it brought together people who I would like to chat with - and as j6p said, I got to know a couple of them better. Email is not the same. But there is one thing, I surely will get some work done now!! heh heh

To Jon "I guess I will be the one person who will miss the chatroom ...."

Goodbye chatroom

The chat room is not going anywhere everyone is still more then welcome to drop in for a chat

J6P and I had a long and thoughtful chat last night about Eddie Murphy and Joe Piscopo. Will I miss that kind of stuff?

You bet. I see your point Dan, I think it makes sense in that there is no record of conversation to build the value of SF plain and simple. There is no advantage for going back and sifting through past posts...good knowledge...dumb shit...and finding something useful for newbies etc.

I do hope that we have some scheduled chats etc. I will mostly miss the getting to know you chats I have had with several of the guys including you Dan. The other recording stuff should be posted as usual, and still be a useful archive.

Warren

Stuff I mess with...

"Ah, I want to just enjoy this, sip a nice Merlot, dip into my hot tub, and then perhaps stone a kitten to death or something."-Jazzoo

Warhead, Heh that was a trip, brother.

But on the audio front, I forgot to mention that one of the things the P3 is being used for is on snare with the tf27. It's nice, snappy with splash. I heard those pre tracks of yours you linked me to. The spoken word ones were the most revealing to me of the ones I heard. I'll go back again for sure. I'll also try to get the ones I told you I'd make, up over at my site by Friday. Maybe I can get a snare snippet off the masters for what's in there now for ya to hear that snare raw. They're nice.
We actually discussed a bunch of shit now that I think about it.
Still..."you are black and I am white".... stuck in my head.
Yoda You are not alone. Dusty thanks for the work you had put into getting it there. Great chattin' with ya.

Dot thanks for giving it a try.



JoeSixpack.us

Joe, yeah we talked about more than that for sure. Looking forward to your clips!

Murphy as S. Wonder:"I am black and you are white"

Piscopo as F. Sinatra:"You are blind as a bat, yet I have site,

side by side on my piano, keyboard,

negro...let's not fiiiiight."

Piscopo's Sinatra asked if they could do that one tune he did with that Beatles kid..."yeah...the one that looks like a broad"...

Just hilarious...crazy...

Stuff I mess with...

"Ah, I want to just enjoy this, sip a nice Merlot, dip into my hot tub, and then perhaps stone a kitten to death or something."-Jazzoo

While I do think chatrooms can be usefull, I find IM software (trillian, etc) to have much mor utility. It's much easier to launch your IM program and send whoever a message than to coordinate a set time and place to meet in a chat room (that's my 2 cents anyways)

I like the chatroom and would like to see it stay, I haven't been on this week since it's my LAST week of college(!!!) so lots to do and no time for chats, which tend to take a while.

The few chats I've participated in were interesting, informative, and I really enjoyed the realtime conversation. Gave a different dimension to the SF community.

*Together we can zap zap ZAP zap the world!!!*

I definetly enjoyed the chat, but I like Studio Forums much more. Chat time was taking away from studio forums time which is/was taking away from recording time. And that is why I strongly agree with Dot's decision.

I am glad the chat happend, but am just as glad to see it go. I definetly feel like I know a lot of you much better. The more 'real time' you can discuss with someone the more you'll know that person faster.

The best medium for understanding someone in long distance communication is still the telephone. You can spit out a million words a minute, say what you feel the second you feel it and the pauses are very short.

The next best medium that I am aware of is chat. Since its non-permanant and non-public you can speak your mind much clearer. And you can just go off and discuss anything such as old-ass SNL episodes.

Next is posting. A reply could take some time, might be too thought out or researched and is generally molded to comply with popular beliefs and worded in a very stiff manner, but that's all stuff that matters to a professional community like this one. If you want to discuss video games your better off in a chatroom, but recording is best left to the forums.

Last (that I can think of) is email. While I can definetly shoot some emails back and forth for some reason I am uncomfortable emailing a lot of times, and it seems to be a very slow and formal form of discussion for 2 people that don't know each other very well.

I get a lot of emails that are written apologeticly, like the sender is sorry to bother me, but in reality I'm happy to recieve anything thats not viagra and longitude spam!

The events are going to be a blast! I hope after the event ends and is logged we can stay and chat up a storm for the rest of the night!

Studio Forums is wonderful because it is personal and popular all at the same time! If there were 5k members here I would get overwhelmed and probably leave... and if there were only 20 posts a day on average I would get board of looking for new posts all the time.

I liked dot's usage of the classic quote "if it aint broke, don't fix it". We have a good thing going here! Speaking from experience (I am an ex-chat addict) chat is a major time soak, is very addictive and gets very old fast. Chatting promotes cliques, teaming up, laziness and unproductivity.

While I rated chatting as a better medium for understanding than forums it is also an easier medium for misunderstandings to occur. Things get said fast, a lot of people talk at the same time making things confusing. Very little thought goes into most discussions. I know I've chatted so long the keyboard is just an extension to my mind... I can have 3 pm's 3 rooms open at the same time and keep up with all of them because I don't even have to think... but this gets me into a lot of trouble!

Just in the few days we had open chat we had a lot of misunderstandings. I hope these in no way affect our tight-knit relationships on Studioforums!

24/7 open chat was a lot of fun while it lasted, and the event chats will be incredible. I hope dot considers and/or dreams up other cool creative add-on's to studio forums in the future!

-Dusty

Some good point up there. I've participated in very, very few chats in my life, to be honest, so I guess I haven't experienced the headaches. I also try no to put too much stock in what's said on the internet since, as we all know, it's so chock full of bullshit. The main time chat would appeal to me is when the forums are slow and I have time to kill...also a chat only seems to work if everyone that's logged on is being responsible, respectful and mature. Not too likely, unfortunately...though I've seen it happen.

*Together we can zap zap ZAP zap the world!!!*

24/7 Chat is one of those things that sounds like a good idea, but in practice has some very weird qualities about it.

Dusty hit it on the head: Chatting promotes cliques, teaming up, laziness and unproductivity.

Studio Forums also thrives on the content generated by the members. All the chat content literally vanishes into thin air.

Even when people privately email me with questions about gear, I'll usually give them the link to Studio Forums and ask them to post here - so that everyone can share in the information.

I actually have a long history of building virtual communities, and Howard Rheingold, "the father of virtual community," has been a friend and mentor for many years. I have a feel for when something's workin' and when it ain't. It became apparent fairly quickly that 24/7 chat for Studio Forums was turning into a major time soak. It was also changing the "vibe" of the community.

Also, in the last two weeks, Studio Forums dropped for the first time in website rank position according to Alexa.com. We've been steadily growing and got near 51, 000. I was watching to see if we moved below 50,000, but instead this week the rating slid back a bit to over 52,000.

Look, I'm surprised that Studio Forums is even in the top 100,000 sites on the net, let alone near the top 50,000 sites. That's a big deal, and with it comes some responsibility on my part not to fuck it up. : )

Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions

I think the idea of a chatroom would be nice, if the chat was mainly about gear and recording technique. I recently visited a chatroom on a different site and it reminded me of an AOL chatroom.

Cary

I visited it once, and I liked it.

But I couldn't help but think : "If I'm going to be talking to people in real time, wouldn't it make more sense to pick up the goddamn phone?"

It's one of those "What's next?" kind of things.

Anyway, if anyone ever feels like they want to chat with me in real time, you can always reach me at 773/235-5795. Otherwise, I'll see ya around on the forum.



www.moonunitsound.com

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Anyway, if anyone ever feels like they want to chat with me in real time, you can always reach me at 773/235-5795.

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HAHAHAHA!!!! LOL!!!!!! HA!

Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions

I think the idea for a chat room should be only during the hours when the most users will be on. For example M-F 5:00-9:00 Sa-Su- 3:00-6:00. The hours can start off small till we gain a bigger crowd, and then we can expand hours.
Chatrooms are more benficial cause you can get instant information.

Goodluck
Mikey Ace