HI i do hiphop and rnb recording and productions..

I have to rooms that i would like to treat and i dont even know were to start...

First i have a room were i want to do my listening/mixxing...its about 8x16..all drywallwith a open closet and a window...
knowing nothin about sound isolation i bouth 1' and 2' thick acoustic foam and just threw it on the wall werever i thought needed lol.and couple corner bass traps that dont seem to be doing the job lol.now the sound is ok but when i play somethin with alot of bass or guitar in it i gett a humming noise when i crank my speakers..


now as for the room i want to make the vocal booth..

its about 12x12 perfect sqaure,with concrete floor concrete walls and a drywall ceiling with 2 windows...basicly a basement room..

i am not great at building things but if some1 could explain i would really apreciate it..

also if you need pics i can do that tonight..

thank you and goodbless

also is thick carpet good for anything?cause i have a big roll lol

This is a good place to start.

http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html

Carpet is not considered a "Good" way to treat a room.

You need to find out what makes your room suck,(frequencies) then figure out what you have to do to Unsuck it....Then you have good room...A square room will never be a great sounding room, but you can make it a really good room.

Most of the answers are available from Ethan.

There are two different things here, one is isolating the room and the second is improving the room's response internally. For isolating the room so that as little sound as is practical makes it to other adjacent areas you need mass and decoupling. For making the room "sound better" for mixing and tracking, you need to treat the wall surfaces. Generally, a mixture of absorptive and reflective surfaces is a really good way to go if the room has sufficient volume (cubic feet), and yes...carpet can work really well, but not generally "wall-to-wall". Small rooms become more of a problem (especially with low ceilings), especially at moderate and above listening levels. You can help yourself right off the bat by keeping playback low.

-john

yes it sounds way better when playback is low...my ceiling is abvout 8 foot high..would u suggest throw just lilttle bit of carpet on the ceiling?

also wat do u think about this

http://www.palmcitystudios.com/timobrien/music/soundboo...implesoundbooth.html

I probably wouldn't put carpet on the ceiling. Some pics would be good as well as a budget(time as well as cash.) Also, do you own or rent? You might also check what you have your monitors mounted on as that could be where your noise is coming from. As far as your goals, are you looking to track bands or just vocals?

Lance

ill put some pics uo tonight

i rent,but its drywall,nothing i couldnt fix ...

i have my monitors mounted on top four metal bracks on my wall,or sometimes on my stand,same sound to me..and all im looking to do is vocals.

If it was me, and I just wanted to track vocals and the odd instrument or two, I'd focus my efforts(and budget) on just one of those rooms. Especially if you are your main client. You don't want to have to scramble between rooms during tracking. If you post pics could you not where the doors windows etc are?

Lance

sorry the rooms a mess,and i just threw the foam anywhere because i didnt know what i was doing and i was in a rush to record lolplus i ran out of foam...

front wall


right wall


back wall


left wall


partial left



let me know...

also i basicly am a software guy,and all i record with is,a audio technica 4040,a tascam us 122 and programs,let me know any other equip i could get to upgrade my qaulity..

thanx

You call that a mess, you see my room right now.

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also i basicly am a software guy,and all i record with is,a audio technica 4040,a tascam us 122 and programs,let me know any other equip i could get to upgrade my qaulity..

Honestly, when you get your room in order you will see a huge improvement. The door on the right wall, is that the entry door. And is it in the corner or middle of the wall? I can't tell. What about the other room or is this the room you've settled on? I'd say for starters buy some rockwool and treat the front corners(wall to wall, ceiling to wall and tri corners) with these.

http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10297

Also you might pull your desk out into the room a bit. 38% seems to be the general rule, I'm not sure if having, basicly, two cubes put together would change that. Afterwards, you would want to treat the side walls between your ears and the speakers. Think pool, where you would would bank a shot to hit the speakers, put your panel there. What's your budget on this and how much can you get away with from your landlord?

Lance

my budget right now is as cheap as i can possibly do it haha...and f my landlord he never comes by and hes a asshole lol...so watever i need to do i can

yes that is the entry doors its toward the bacl corner closeest to the closet that has all the foam in it haha...

also my desk is more towards the left of the wall,should i center it perfectly?


and when u say wall to wall and ceiling to wall im not sure what u mean...the whole wall?

the other room is all concrete so i think it would be tough to do?


i really apreciate ur help

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and f my landlord he never comes by and hes a asshole lol...so watever i need to do i can

Well we don't want to put you out in the street!

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and when u say wall to wall and ceiling to wall im not sure what u mean...the whole wall?

Sorry, where the two walls meet, straddle a two foot by six foot panel over the corner. Stick a 2'x2' panel up where the ceiling and walls meet and then a 2'x4' panel where the front wall meets the ceiling.

Lance

i apolagise for my slowness lol..but u mean using this guys method?

http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10297

and that would be just to treat the corner for bass?

Yeah that method seems to be one of the easiest for building the panels. just use two panels per trap so that you have a four inch thickness and then mount them straddled across the corners. If you can swing two boxes of six(if you buy online they come in boxes of six 2'x4'x2" panels) you can do both front corners from floor to ceiling and then a panel across the front wal/ceiling corner. That leaves you with two 2" panels that you could frame the same way and mount on your side walls, mounted a few inches off the wall so there's an air gap behind it. Then you could relocate some of the foam to the ceiling above you. However, you'll want to replace it with rockwool as soon as budget allows.

Lance

ok i got you...do you know of any websites that sell rockwool?and when o do the ceilin slash top corner going asccrosssed shiould i put it straddled on a tilt or flat on the ceiling

ATS acoustics is the cheapest I've found shipped to Oklahoma, however, I would try to find a local distributer if you can as shipping seems to cost almost as much as the product.

To make things simple I would just cover the front corners from floor to ceiling.

Lance

thanx so much man u were a big help!


as for the back shelf n the window?

i been calling everywhere o find it lol...

do you know of any commercial places that sell it? like home depot or what ever

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do you know of any commercial places that sell it? like home depot or what ever

Call these places:http://www.specjm.com/locator/googleresults.asp
Ask for an equivelant to "OC 703"

http://cgi.ebay.com/Soundproofing-Foam-Acoustic-Bass-Ab...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


would those be any good or would i be better off using the rockwool..


also the link didnt work

thanx!