Well, thanks for the tips fellas (I'd guess it's safe to assume there're no ladies around?? My friend and I were just recently pondering the lack of female engineers/producers. What up with that?)

Anyway, I'm going to be rearranging my room this weekend to get my desk more centralized on that lower wall. Then, I'm going to look into getting some of that 703 shizit.

Any tips on what type of stores might carry those badboys? I found sites to where I could order them online, but seems like shipping charges will hurt. I'm in a town of about 150,000, and only about an hour from L.A. Where do I look?

Thanks again.

WalkerGibson - unless you are planning to spend a lot of money on this, this is what my suggestion would be: download attachment.

Local roofing & building material companies are those who carry this sort of products.

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I'm planning on building (4) cylindrical bass traps in 3 foot sections for the front corners ...

As far as I'm concerned cylindrical bass traps work good wherever you place them. Why not use corners for 6" & 4" panels instead?
May be you can explain?

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Hah! Thanks, wretch. I do float, and I weigh more than a duck ...

You must be a king!

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Originally posted by wretchasketch:

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Hah! Thanks, wretch. I do float, and I weigh more than a duck ...

You must be a king!

I'm not a witch, that's for sure!

mud

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I'm planning on building (4) cylindrical bass traps in 3 foot sections for the front corners ...

As far as I'm concerned cylindrical bass traps work good wherever you place them. Why not use corners for 6" & 4" panels instead?
May be you can explain?

Yes, they do, but they're big as heck, diameter wise ... I figure in the corner they'll be as out of the way as possible.

mud

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Originally posted by nbarts:
WalkerGibson - unless you are planning to spend a lot of money on this, this is what my suggestion would be: download attachment.

Local roofing & building material companies are those who carry this sort of products.

Dude, EXACTLY what I was thinking. Except the rugs - didn't consider the rugs. I'll get on that as well. Thanks.

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Yes, they do, but they're big as heck, diameter wise ... I figure in the corner they'll be as out of the way as possible.

What, like 20"? Not a big deal IMO. I really don't think you have enough broadband absorbers for a place of that size not to use them the best way you could.

Here ya go -

Hope others will chime in & correct my mistakes.

I'm guessing from your door hangers that your door opens into the room, that's unfortunate, as it limits your ability to apply treatment to your back wall. Anyway if you fill up your closet with something to absorb the sound instead of bouncing it back into your room that should do a lot.

What about the rear corners? I have the same problem with the entry right in the corner. What about 4' or 6' rockwool/703 panels on stands? Or better yet casters? Then you could roll them in and out of the door corner as needed and also move them for spot treatment when needed. Like a portable vocal booth or what have you.

Lance

Also, from what I have read over the last year or so, the general consensus is that a reflective flooring surface is best. At least for tracking acoustic instruments. Have you given any thought to that? If you own, it could be as easy as ripping out the carpet and dropping some lenoleum for cheap.

Lance

Thanks for the model, nbarts. I'll get on that in the next few weeks and hopefully have something to show for it soon. Can I get the 703 panels from a Home Depot/Lowes-type establishment, or is it more a specialty item? I'm supposed to cover them in burlap, right? Where might I aquire that?

LanceP, I don't own, so I can't really throw down some lenoleum. But, I could build a nice temporary floor, I suppose.

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LanceP, I don't own, so I can't really throw down some lenoleum. But, I could build a nice temporary floor, I suppose

On that note you might try laying some ply wood covered with pergo or something in the back half of the room for tracking. if your landlord is cool, if not don't worry about it.

Lance

On second thought, don't worry about the floor. You might, however, look into some angled slot resonators for the side walls. Benefits would be; breaking up parallel surfaces, absorbing a broad range of frequencies(tunable) and keeping the room from being too "dead." As far as materials, unfortunately you can't pick up 703or rockwool at home depot/lowes. you can call around to building/contractor supply companies or you can order it online. The best price I found online was at ATS Acoustics. Fabric can be anything that youcan breath through.

Lance

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On second thought, don't worry about the floor. You might, however, look into some angled slot resonators for the side walls. Benefits would be; breaking up parallel surfaces, absorbing a broad range of frequencies(tunable) and keeping the room from being too "dead." As far as materials, unfortunately you can't pick up 703or rockwool at home depot/lowes. you can call around to building/contractor supply companies or you can order it online. The best price I found online was at ATS Acoustics. Fabric can be anything that youcan breath through.

Lance

So, there's nothing inherently valuable about burlap in particular? I can just use whatever material I like?

Thanks for the tips.

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So, there's nothing inherently valuable about burlap in particular? I can just use whatever material I like?

Not as far as I know. It just has to be breathable and able to keep the fiberglass/ mineral wool fibers.

Lance

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So, there's nothing inherently valuable about burlap in particular?

Except that burlap is fun to say when you belch. Whatever material you use, see if you can blow through it easily. If so, it will also let sound waves in rather than reflect them...or so I have read. If you end up using burlap, try any place that sells fabric. Walmart down here has a fabric department, and the burlap is around $1.67 per square yard. They have it in black, off white, and feed sack colored. I got the burlap that looks like feed sacks because it reminded me of childhood on the farm.

I used twin size bed sheets (black) from walmart on some of the panels I have. 1 sheet will do 2 x 703 panels (2x4) covering the front and about 20% of the rear. Iron them before cutting and covering the panels - they look great and this is by far the best cost cutting approach if you're on a tight budget.

Here's my take on the fabric thing ...

Take a sheet of fabric, like doc bam's bedsheet. Listen to your stereo with the sheet covering your head like a halloween ghost, and without. If there's no apparent difference in the sound, the sheet is not reflecting, but passing the soundwaves through.

Just a thought.



mud

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Originally posted by LanceP:
What about the rear corners? I have the same problem with the entry right in the corner. What about 4' or 6' rockwool/703 panels on stands? Or better yet casters? Then you could roll them in and out of the door corner as needed and also move them for spot treatment when needed. Like a portable vocal booth or what have you.

Lance

Yea... I don't think there is enough room for them in there.

The reason so many choose burlap is because it's durable & looks good & priced fairly cheap. I like felt, wool felt looks even better, but it's not gonna keep the look overtime as good as burlap.

About walmart bed sheets: that's what I used for the first few absorbers I was building, wasn't bad & wasn't good either, too dense IMO. I've changed them with felt later, works a lot better & looks a lot better too, bu t of course a lot more expensive. For a project of that size I don't think saving 2-3$ per yard is worth it.