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Yondan |
The difference besides of cabinets between 5As & 6As is amps: 50W & 100W. In real life BM5As went as low as 30hz, 6As - 24Hz. Interestingly their manuals don't claim to go that far. However the bottom end is rolled off, as expected I suppose. I think you would make a choice between these 2 based on the room size. If you don't need the extra power than you'll be good with 5As. |
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6th kyu |
the room size is relatively small at about 15 ft X 10 ft. if it will identify more in the lower end i wouldnt have a problem spending the extra money
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Yondan |
Let me just tell you that 5as or 6as are mid & high oriented monitors. I don't think one can make trustworthy low end decisions on either one. Hey.. but that's just my opinion.
Monitors are very user dependent, it's very important that you feel comfortable with them, no matter how many users swear about them. It's important to have an option to return in case they don't fit your "taste". In your case I would lean a little over bm5a side if I had to choose between those 2. Save 500$, add some more later & get a sub with it if you find low end is such a big concern. Hey, hang on a second, I've just noticed that you question about BM 6A Mk II, yet all I said was about BM6As. I never had any experience with BM 6A Mk II. |
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6th kyu |
yeah im looking at the new BM6A Mk2's vs bm5a's.
my only concern going with a dynaudio sub is that it lacks the inputs to later expand to 5.1 surround like some of the genelec models. would it be ok to mix & match subs with nearfields or is it better to stay proprietary, with the same manufacturer ?? Anyone ?? |
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5th kyu |
While it probably IS better to stick with the same manufacturer -- the BM9S was designed to work specifically with the BM series monitors -- you should be able to get great results with any good quality sub....and save some dough too
 I've considered getting a sub like the Samson Rubicon R10s (~$300) to go with my BM6 monitors, but I don't do bass-heavy material, so it would really be just for filling-out the low end, and for pleasure more than critical listening. Also, some of the heavy-hitters on GS (Bob O, and co.) have mentioned that if you go with the subwoofer theory, you really need to get a separate one for each channel. Otherwise, you're likely to make poor decisions during mix. 2 x BM9S = $1600!!! That's freakin' ridiculous  |
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6th kyu |
ok i see ..
i didnt know that about the multiple subs for the 2.1 mixing, thanks ! i guess no one has tried the new BM6A MK2's yet as they just came out .. |
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Yondan |
 Who would say that? So you need 5 subwoofers for 5 channels? Subwoofer theory?? C'mon!Why do you think it's called 5.1 or 2.1? |
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6th kyu |
I am planning to use active speakers (monitors) in my Home Theater directly from an Anthem processor using XLR.
Before this thread, I was thinking to get Mackies HR824 (Front Channels); HR626 (Center Channel) and HR624 (Surround). Maybe a passive Dipolar/Bipolar for surround back. Now, with the very well regards to DynAudio BM5A, What setup do you recommend to replace the Mackies for a HT? |
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6th kyu |
i could see with stereo mixing it might have an advantage to have a dedicated sub per channel that way any panning of sound would act in stereo no matter what the frequency ! then again i could be wrong ) |
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5th kyu |
Who would say that?? Well, I thought I said Bob O(hlsson), but maybe my typing isn't so good. GS is down now, but when it comes back up, I'll find the thread and post a link here so people can draw their own conclusions. I know why it's called 5.1 and 2.1, but we're not talking about end-user listening here, rather, getting stereo mixes with solid low-end. Solonoid's assumption that "any panning of sound would act in stereo no matter what the frequency" was in-line with the explanations given in the GS thread, if I remember correctly. A single sub means that you're listening to the mids and highs in stereo, and the lows in mono. What kind of mixing decisions will one make in that hybrid situation? How well is that going to translate to a simple stereo setup (no sub)? It's certainly something worth considering. - Jim |
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Yondan |
That wasn't actually a question awaiting for an answer, but .... whatever..
And I do get where the idea comes from, no explanation necessary. In my limited imagination one would mix with subwoofer off anyway, turning it on occasionally just to fine tune things. But hey, good luck with multi-sub setups  .
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5th kyu |
Naw....too rich for my blood. I'd love to hear from someone packing Dyn BM monitors AND a pair of Dyn subs...yummy! - Jim |
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6th kyu |
Sorry if I'm looking an answer in the wrong forum but I have been planning for a while to use active speakers in my HT mainly focused to high-end audio using SACD, DVD-A and DTS concerts.
It seems that every forum agreed that Dyn BM5A is better than Mackies HR824. My problem is the center channel, but now I'm thinking in the following setup: Front Channels: 2 x BM6A MKII Center Channel: 2 x BM5A compact positioned horizontal Surround: 2 x BM5A What do you think? Specially the center channel? Any other ideas? |
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Sandan |
May as well just get a third MB6AII for the center...I know that in a lot of the surround setups I've seen, they use the same monitor for all the fronts and then perhaps something smaller for the surrounds.
Ian Combs Producer/Engineer/Monkeyboy Lightspeed Group, Inc. ----------------------------------- I'm utterly baffled at the general opinion regarding smoking. I don't smoke, but it's a bar, for God's sake. That's what your supposed to expect. It's a den of iniquity where people are going to indulge in all of the minor vices and sins denied to them during their mundane workdays. You can wreck your liver, ruin your hearing, get into a fight, and pick up an STD, but somehow smoking is unacceptable? Sheesh. We've turned into a nation of entitled whiners. |
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6th kyu |
Tommyj1112,
I tested the Dyn BM5A's againts the Events before buying my Dyns and they didn't compare, IMO. I spent 3 years on Roland DS50A's and never got decent mix, I would mix/master take notes and repeat that process over and over then I finally bought the Dyns and have good mixes first time around. You can't go wrong with the Dyns, IMO. |
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5th kyu |
Thanks for your comments everyone. I went with the BM5a's some time ago. Very impressed. Detailed and clear. re the BM6a I listened to them a couple of weeks ago. Very similar though I think they deal with the power deficit that the 5s suffer in bigger rooms
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6th kyu |
How big is a 'big room'?
My room is 16.5' W x 21' L x 6' H. My desk is aprrox 1/3 of the way out length-wise. |
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6th kyu |
Personally I think one important detail is being overlooked here - what the client hears!
Yes of course I know that as the recording / mix engineer - I need to choose speakers that are right for me but at the same time I want my client to feel excited when they are here - and yes the stuff won't sounds as good to them once they leave, but they all know that - and want to feel excited and inspired when they are in the studio. Last year I compared 6 sets of monitors including the dynaudios (that had been alrewady "worked-in") and found different strengths in each set of monitors. But for me, in my control room (and let's not forget what a huge difference that can make) the Mackie 824s just sounded better - not quite as clear in detail - but close- and marvelous stereo imaging, deeper acurate bass, and - not to be overlooked - a sound that instantly excited the clients who heard them. We are in this business to make a living after all - and while i'd NEVER suggest buying anything ONLY to impress a client - I strongly believe when other qualities are at or near equal - that it should be strongly considered. Just me two cents |
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5th kyu |
Sorry for the tardy response fooman. Depends how loud you like to turn it up. I think BM5as should manage that size of room. If it was really any bigger I'd be looking at the 6a
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